[MIS] NEWS AND INFORMATION – SUN 11TH JUN – SAT 17TH JUN ’00
IN THIS ISSUE ... 1 - THE EDITOR WRITES - This weeks news and information in brief. 2 - FACING THE MUSIC - Never trust a virgin? Well no, I wouldn't quite go that far but there are some here amongst us who are not playing by the rules. Virgin Records to be precise. Not content with ripping off the fans with unnecessary compilations, they then have the gall to give the new album no promotion. `Madness Unsugged` editor, Vincent Carden reports. 3 - THE MIND OF THE VELVET GHOST - With the first public appearance and performance of The Velvet Ghost at yesterday's Fleadh festival, it seems only right that we take a look at the recently uploaded `Velvet Ghost` website. 4 - WEBMASTER REQUIRED - One webmaster required to take over the dat to day running and maintenance of the MIS Online website. 5 - SMASHSTOCK - The TMML's Barzo gives us the lowdown on Saturday's Fleadh and first public performance of `The Velvet Ghost`. Find out just what went on and thanks to Simon Roberts, what songs were aired. 6 - TIME FOR A MOVE - Since the Madness Mailing List closed its doors 18 months or so ago, Simon Roberts's `Not the Madness Mailing List` has been keeping the online Madness community dosed-up with regular smatterings of Madness news, info, MP3's and lots, lots more. 7 - IN WONDER - Thanks and closing words. [1] - THE EDITOR WRITES Hello Maddies, Welcome to another edition of the MIS. You'll probably notice that this issue is a little shorter than previous editions. The reason being my C drive decided to go belly up over the weekend and unfortunately I lost all the E-mails and the issue I had been working on over the past week. During the fatal crash, I also lost all the back-issues of the MIS. Issues 1-40 can be found on the MIS Online site (see address at the top of this page), but I no longer had issues 41 to the present. Well, I had no need to panic. After a quick request to the Total Madness Mailing List, both Simsey and Brio got in touch and offered to send me the required issues! Thanks to them I now have the complete MIS archive on hard drive once more. If the two of you are going to the Ian Dury gig on Friday, I think I owe you both a drink or two. Still, there's no need to panic. I've knocked up today's edition of the MIS in record time so you've all got something to rummage through until next Sunday. First up and we have Vincent Carden giving us his views on Virgin Records, the numerous mistakes they've made, and how they just don't seem to be able to get the whole Madness promotional machine to work properly. With a number of you lucky enough to get along to the first public performance of `The Velvet Ghost`, the rest of you will probably want to find out more. With that in mind, I've popped along to the recently uploaded www.velvetghost.com to give you all the lowdown and to tell you that you need to visit this site now and keep a watchful eye on it over the coming weeks and months. Many of you will have probably noticed that the MIS Online website is rather out of date and is ill-updated. With this in mind, I'm putting out rather a special request. Read on to find out more! Further in this issue, Barzo (no, not THE Barso) and Simon Roberts give us all the lowdown of Saturday's Velvet Ghost appearance with song recommendations, track listings and a general review of the day. If like me you couldn't get down to North London on the Saturday, you need to read this just to see what you missed. It's enough to make you sick ;-) And if all that wasn't enough, we have news that Simon Roberts' excellent `Not the Madness Mailing List` website has changed ownership, but will still continue to provide the best collection of Madness material for the Madness die-hard. So, with that, lets get straight on in. Enjoy the read! All the nutty best, Robert Hazelby (MIS Online Editor) [2] - FACING THE MUSIC Never trust a virgin? Well no, I wouldn't quite go that far but there are some here amongst us who are not playing by the rules. Virgin Records to be precise. Not content with ripping off the fans with unnecessary compilations, they then have the gall to give the new album no promotion. I'll talk in the language they prefer, business language. Such as, if people don't know a product exists, how do you expect them to buy it? What do marketing people call it, "Informative Advertising", I think. And that's the problem. The language. Virgin fatcats speak the kind of language that Dave Robinson spoke when Madness lost respect for him as he was becoming more of a businessman. He talked about "shifting units", rather than releasing great singles. Some of the excuses from Virgin defending the re-release of Divine Madness and the lack of `Wonderful` promotion are embarrassing, to understate things. The Lone Ranger and the recent albums from The Pet Shop Boys and Eurythmics had far, far more money spent on promoting them. Are Virgin telling us that Madness are not as big as those three acts? Do I rest my case there? No, there's plenty more to say. I do not believe that Madness should have gone back to the record company that owned the back catalogue. Big mistake. If they had gone with somebody else, they could have no suspicions or hidden motives. The unwillingness to subsidise a video for `Drip Fed Fred` brings back bad memories of the time they did the same for `What's That`. Some other cock-up's from their promotion department include sending out very few `Drip Fed Fred` postcards to those who sent their name off to the freepost address which appeared in the album and `Vote for Fred` posters. Did you get one? Then there was the time I phoned them up two weeks after `Drip Fed Fred` was launched at a greyhound track, asking them for a release date. They hadn't heard of the single and asked me was it on another record label!!! When I asked them for b-side details in February, they said it was a track called `Asylum`. `Elysium` (ahem!) was one side of the double a-side actually. Even four days before `Lovestruck` was released, they got the release date wrong by a week. I don't blame Virgin for the singles not selling. That's down to a lack of airplay which isn't their fault, but don't be surprised when `Divine Madness Too` is promoted more than `Wonderful`. Shrinks tell you to deal with your feelings by writing them down. Suggs did this when he recalled some of his dodgy childhood experiences in `The Three Pyramids Club`. He called it `Exorcising some ghosts`. I'm doing it with my feelings about Virgin. And there's no better way to do it than to change the lyrics of a song written by the member of Madness most sceptical of big record companies, `Round and Round` by Lee Thompson. I've done a bit of a `Shut Up` on it, by giving it a name that is not in the lyrics, `Faceless Men`. If you'd like to see the lyrics to `Faceless Men`, please get in touch with Vincent Carden at the following address and get your subscription to the excellent `Madness Unsugged` fanzine. Vincent Carden House of Fun 5 Hudson Road Glasthule Dublin Ireland Or you can drop Vince a line at: dripfedvin at yahoo.com [3] - THE MIND OF THE VELVET GHOST As mentioned in a previous edition of the MIS, the almighty Cathal Smyth has not only taken the plunge and formed his own band, he has also started to put together a rather contemporary site in the form of www.velvetghost.com For those of you yet to visit this rather mysterious corner of the Internet community, let me tell you that you're in for an unusual spot of web-surfing when you arrive at the site. The main page is a rather simple affair bearing the banner `Welcome To The World, The Music And The Mind Of The velvet ghost`. From here you have access to the whole site with just a few simple clicks of the trusty mouse. Your first port of call after the main page will most likely be the `Book` section. I was expecting to be whisked away to the usual run of the mill guestbook as found on most sites. How wrong I was. Instead, we're treated to what I can only assume is a collection of new tracks penned by Cathal (and possibly others?). Perhaps when we hear from some of the lucky people who managed to catch The Velvet Ghost perform at the Fleadh yesterday, we'll know if these featured in the line-up. It's certainly essential reading and it's sure to leave your mind in a right old state! Moving on and we're plunged into `Visions of the ghost`; who is behind velvetghost.com? who is the ghost? the wizard? here is the dreaming man.... coming this week Well, I think our questions are about to be answered as the page announces that "visions & images of the ghost coming soon". One can only assume that some rather natty pictures from the Fleadh gig will be online within the next week or so. Remember to keep popping back to this section over the next couple of days to see what goes up! Over in `The Word of The Ghost` we're treated to transcriptions of a number of well-known Madness songs - `Johnny The Horse`, `You're Wonderful`, as well as some more unusual ones such as `The Alligator Song` (which many of you will know as `Alligator With a Stanley Knife`), and two tracks which I've never heard of - `hoo de la la` and `welcome to the darkside`. These last two tracks can't yet be accessed, but I'm sure they'll be online before long. Another click and you arrive in the `News of The Ghost` section. Here the latest Velvet Ghost news and information will be beamed to the comfort of your computer desktop. At present the page is pretty empty, apart from the following words of wisdom; velvetghost.com has as you can see, arrived. news, reviews of latest events & all manner of accomplishments & endeavours will be duly reported. upcoming events can be found in manifestations. we hope you enjoy your time here... please refresh your pages on each visit as this site will be updated regularly the ghost does not want the earth from you, only to walk it with you One section of the site which seems to be up and running 100% is the `Hall of Fame` page where you can have a look at `Friends of The Ghost`. Currently listed are `The Players` which provides you, the Madness net nut to see the other members of Cathal's new band including none other than Sean Macgloin, son of the legendary Tommy macgloin (he of `Los Palmas 7 fame). In this section you can rummage through some excellent mugshots of each band member as well as reading through their vital statistics. The next stop on your `Velvet Ghost` travels surely has to be `Manifestations of the Ghost` where you find out when Cathal and his band will be playing next. Don't get too excited though as apart from the Fleadh gig, no other appearances are currently listed. Still, I'd certainly recommend regular visits to this section just in case! If you'd like to get in touch with Cathal and the rest of the band, or you think your website is worthy of adding to their links section, you'll need to visit `The Communicator` where you can drop the lads a line and let them know you're out there. On the other hand, if you'd like to make a few comments about the site, the best place to do that is to sign the guestbook over in `The League of The Ghost`. The guestbook is already quite full and includes some fantastic feedback and comments from people who managed to catch the Fleadh performance. Well, what can I say? I truly bizarre site that both informs and puzzles the reader in equal doses! Although there are many sections which are only just starting to take shape, I can see that it's going to be a site that you just HAVE to keep re-visiting to see what weird and wonderful goodies have been uploaded since you last connected. So, what are you waiting for? Load up that web browser and pay a visit to: http://www.velvetghost.com and if you get 5 minutes, fill in the guestbook to let the band know what you think. Robert Hazelby [4] - WEBMASTER REQUIRED As many of you will have no doubt noticed, the MIS Online website at http://www.jabba.demon.co.uk/mis/ is in need of an update, and could do with being updated on a once weekly basis to inform Madness fans of what's new on the Madness scene as well as make all issues of the MIS available for downloading. You can probably imagine, that the weekly bulletins take a large chunk of my spare time up with compiling the articles and roping people in to contribute some material. This leaves me with very little time to put towards updating the website on a regular basis. What does this have to do with you, you may ask. Well, I have decided that I should really pass the MIS website over to someone else. This would leave me with more time to devote putting together the weekly bulletins as well as keeping the smaller `One Step Behind` website (also stored on the same server) up-to-date. My plan is to have the main `welcome` page for MIS Online stored at the current address on my server, but the bulk of the main pages would be held on the server belonging to the webmaster. He or she would be responsible for keeping the site updated on a weekly basis, but I would contribute on the odd occasion. The main bulk of the MIS website is already up and running as you can probably see. The only major updates required at the moment are to upload issues 41 to the present of the bulletins, and to make sure that the information on the main page is up to date with the latest news. I'm happy to offer any assistance whilst the MIS site is being moved over to the new server as I would like the move to be as trouble free as possible. If you are interested in hosting, updating and keeping the site bang up-to-date, please get in touch with me and we can start getting the ball rolling. I look forward to hearing from you. Robert Hazelby (robert at jabba.demon.co.uk) [5] - SMASHSTOCK Hi everyone! Well what a lovely sunny day to go to the park! Finsbury Park at that, and to watch The Velvet Ghost! What a performance! First off I met up with Wee Stoo, {& his friend Dave} Emma, Mr.G, Vince F, Vince C, Michael, and Sigal and her Sister who had travelled from Israel, in the 12 pins pub for some pre-show drinks! We made our way to the park at about 13:00pm, and went straight to the stage where The Velvet Ghost were to play. We were waiting for them to come on stage, when all of a sudden we heard bagpipes playing. I looked behind me, and saw Cathal with his guitar and Sean Macgloin playing the bagpipes, walking through the crowd and up onto the stage. From the grin on Cathal's face, you could tell that he was going to enjoy this, just as much as we were! The whole band were fantastic. They looked, and played together superbly. I didn't know what to expect before I went to the Concert, but nothing could have prepared me for the show that lay ahead of me. Now you may think that I'm biased because of the Madness link, but those of you that know me, will know I'll tell you what I think, regardless. The whole show, from beginning to end was just fantastic. The songs were great, and the lyrics just blew me away. Nothing like the crap that's in the charts today! I can't wait until I can go and buy music by The Velvet Ghost, and play it loud on my stereo! I'm still humming away to a great song called "Hoo De La La"! Of the songs that you would all know, they played "The Communicator", "The Wizard" and a fantastic version of "Johnny The Horse", which in my opinion was the better version. A great song to listen out for is "This Friend I know". I loved this one, and hope that you will too. Well, I won't write any more as I know that other's who went on the day will give you their own views of the day's events. I just wanted you all to know that I had a fantastic time at the Fleadh, and I'm still buzzing from watching a truly talented band. I hope that you'll enjoy listening to them as much as I did yesterday. I'd also like to say to everyone one that was there at the meet that it was nice to meet you all, faces old and new. Well, that's enough of me mumberling on, I'll leave it up to the others who were there to tell you their own opinions. One last thing, if you ever get the chance to watch or listen to The Velvet Ghost, don't hesitate, go and do it, you'll love them! Trust me! Barzo (cheryl_barso at yahoo.co.uk) ICQ No. 68 43 76 16 Simon Roberts tells us that the band were on stage for approximately 40 of our Earth minutes, and during that time, the following tracks were aired (in no particular order); We are Love You're Wonderful Johnny the Horse (The full intro version !!) Hoo de la la (I feel ho de la la!!) Ditty (<whatever it was- for his young daughter in the crowd) This friend I know The Wizard Welcome to the darkside ( d d d d d d.. Darkside!) The Communicator Not sure if he did 'I'm going mad again.' Many thanks to Barzo and Simon for the info. [6] - TIME FOR A MOVE Since the Madness Mailing List closed its doors 18 months or so ago, Simon Roberts's `Not the Madness Mailing List` has been keeping the online Madness community dosed-up with regular smatterings of Madness news, info, MP3's and lots, lots more. The site has been regularly updated during the past 18 months, and those of you visiting on a weekly basis could always be sure of stumbling across something new. With work commitments taking their toll, Simon has decided to call it a day as he can no longer keep the website updated on a regular basis. Don't worry, there's no need to panic, as the TMML's Wozza has kindly taken up the reigns of the good ship NTMML. Here's Mr. Wozza with a few words of wisdom; "Dear All, Hi, the Wozza here. Now usually you expect all your info from Simon "Wayfinder" Roberts, however Simon has decided to give up his title as NTMML webmaster, and pass it along to me. He has made several wishes, and I have stuck to them. Firstly, the site will remain here at www.ntmml.co.uk, and the site will have a new name. So, say goodbye to the Good ship NTMML, as she is being repainted, ready to sail the seven seas, of the seven nutty boys! Cheers, Paul "Wozza" Wassell" Take a look at the new NTMML website at: http://www.ntmml.co.uk/ [7] - IN WONDER That's about it for this weeks rather rushed edition of the MIS Online Bulletin! I'm hoping your reading experience hasn't been spoilt too much. That's the last time I experiment with my Master Boot Record for the foreseeable future!! Thanks once again to Simsey and Brio for going above and beyond the call of duty and sending me the lost issues of the MIS I have been losing sleep over. My thanks also to Simon Roberts for forwarding me a selection of mails from the TMML. For some reason I have only received one mail from the list over the last 3 days or so - most strange. Thanks for keeping me up to date Simon!! With my hard drive crash I have lost all my mails and E-mail addresses, so if you've sent me a mail over the last week and are waiting for a reply, you'll be waiting a long time as I don't have your address. If you know me, please drop me a line so I can once again add your addresses to Outlook. As usual, if you have anything to send for inclusion in a future edition of the MIS, please do get in touch and I'll be more than happy to include it. Until next week. All the nutty best, Robert Hazelby